Model T Serial Cable: Difference between revisions
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These cables are not full-handshake, but actually work fine for almost everything as also. They are not | These cables are not full-handshake, but actually work fine for almost everything as also. They are not ''ideal'' only because the RTS/CTS hardware flow control lines are either missing or faked, or wired in some non-standard way like connecting DSR/DTR to CTS. But they have the correct physical plugs, and correct TX/RX wiring, and have DSR/DTR at least faked, and so they work for all software flow-control applications, which is everything, including [[TPDD_Emulators|TPDD]], excluding only [http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTERM HTERM] and [ https://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=TBACK TBACK]. | ||
Software flow-control is the only thing any software ever used on these machines, because the system ROM doesn't contain any code to accesses the RTS/CTS pins. The hardware is present and functional, but you need to write a machine language binary to use it. HTERM and TBACK are the only known examples. | Software flow-control is the only thing any software ever used on these machines, because the system ROM doesn't contain any code to accesses the RTS/CTS pins. The hardware is present and functional, but you need to write a machine language binary to use it. HTERM and TBACK are the only known examples. | ||
Revision as of 02:03, 8 June 2021
Summary
The ideal cable to go from a PC to a Model 100, 102, 200, or 600, would be described as "9F/25M serial null-modem full-handshake".
That is an uncommon configuration to find in a single cable without needing adapters or needing to build it yourself custom.
The serial ports on
- TRS-80/TANDY Model 100, 102, 200, 600
- NEC PC-8201, PC-8201A, PC-8300, PC-8401 / Starlet, PC-8500
- Olivetti M10
- Kyotronic KC-85
have a DTE pinout, the same as a com port on a PC, but with a female connector, unlike a pc.
This is a backwards configuration from everything else today. This may have been more common before the first IBM pc, and IBM came along later and created a new standard by using male connectors for the COM ports on their PCs, probably to distinguish them from the printer port which used a female DB25. But the universal standard today is that DTE ports are male (9-pin or 25-pin), and a DB25F (25-pin female) is either a parallel printer port or a DCE port on a peripheral (like a modem), not a DTE port on a host (a computer).
This means that most serial cables you will find today will need some sort of adapter to connect a "Model T" to anything else.
If you have a null-modem cable, it will probably have the wrong connectors, in which case you will need either a gender-changer or a 9-to-25 adapter or both.
If you have a cable with the right connectors, it is probably a straight-though "modem" cable, in which case you will need at minimum a male-to-female null-modem adapter.
So a single cable with both the right wiring on the inside, and the right connectors on the outside, without needing a stack of adapters, is a little bit special. They do make them, but you just have to search for them specially. Sometimes you can find a cable with that combination of properties by searching for a "Serial Printer" cable. Several known-good ideal cables are linked below.
The ideal cable is this:
| looking at cable end | 
| |||
|---|---|---|---|---|
female |
male
| |||
| DTE | DTE | |||
| Signal | DE9F | DB25M | Signal | |
| RX | 2 | 2 | TX | |
| TX | 3 | 3 | RX | |
| DTR | 4 | 6 8 |
DSR DCD | |
| SG | 5 | 7 | SG | |
| DSR DCD |
6 1 |
20 | DTR | |
| RTS | 7 | 5 | CTS | |
| CTS | 8 | 4 | RTS | |
Ideal Cables
These cables are wired null-modem, have all the connections for hardware flow-control, and the right physical connectors on both ends, all in one factory-molded piece. You don't need any null-modem adapters or gender-changer adapters.
- No RI
- S+PG
- No RI
- S+PG
- No RI
- Includes nuts (removable) on the 9-pin plug screws, so if you have the wrong kind of usb-serial adapter you can still screw it to the cable.
- No DCD
- No RI
Software Flow Control Only Cables
These cables are not full-handshake, but actually work fine for almost everything as also. They are not ideal only because the RTS/CTS hardware flow control lines are either missing or faked, or wired in some non-standard way like connecting DSR/DTR to CTS. But they have the correct physical plugs, and correct TX/RX wiring, and have DSR/DTR at least faked, and so they work for all software flow-control applications, which is everything, including TPDD, excluding only HTERM and [ https://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=TBACK TBACK].
Software flow-control is the only thing any software ever used on these machines, because the system ROM doesn't contain any code to accesses the RTS/CTS pins. The hardware is present and functional, but you need to write a machine language binary to use it. HTERM and TBACK are the only known examples.
Special note about TPDD: TPDD clients all require that the DTR pin be connected to something. It can be faked (shorted to the machine's own DSR), or real (connected to the other ends DSR), or even wierder setups like connecting to RTS+CTS, but it has to be connected to something. A minimal 3-conductor cable can still do TPDD as long as it has DTR shorted to DSR inside the DB25 connector shell. Many generic cables don't have that but these specific cables all do, and these all work for TPDD.
- DCD<-->RTS+CTS
- RI<-->RI
- DCD<-->RTS+CTS
- RI<-->RI
- DCD<-->RTS+CTS
- No RI
- DCD<-->RTS+CTS
- No RI
- DTR<-->DCD+RTS+CTS
- No RI
- DTR<-->DCD+RTS+CTS
- No RI
- DCD<-->RTS
- DSR+CTS<-->DTR
- No RI
- This is a very unusual type of cable. If you don't have an HP or IBM plotter, I would not recommend getting this. But, strictly for the TX/RX and the physical connectors, as long as the software is ignoring RTS/CTS and DSR/DTR, it does work, so if you do have an HP or IBM plotter, then you could use this for both your plotter and your M100.
- DCD<-->RTS+CTS
- RI<-->RI
USB-Serial Adapters
Any one will work well enough. But some considerations are:
Models based on FTDI chips are generally better than the ones based on Prolific chips.
Try to get a usb-serial adapter that has nuts, not screws.
Here are a few ideal examples, with FTDI chips and jack nuts.
- Startech ICUSB232C (USB-C)
- Gearmo GM-FTDI2-LED16-C (USB-C)
Legend
For all the cable wiring notes above, the notes indicate how the cable differs from a canonical RS-232 DTE-to-DTE null-modem reference.
Any signal that is not mentioned, is wired according to the reference. IE, if TX or RX is not mentioned, then TX on one end of the cable is connected to RX on the other end of the cable.
Unless otherwise noted, the indicated wiring is symmetrical, the indicated connections are the same on both ends of the cable.
S+PG
- The cable Shield (& connector shell) is connected to Protective Ground or "frame ground" (pin 1 on the DB25 connector, no pin on the DB9 just the connector shell)
RI<-->RI
- Ring Iindicator is connected to Ring Indicator
- DB25 pin 22 (RI) is connected to DE9 pin 9 (RI)
DCD<-->RTS+CTS
- Request To Ssend is connected to Clear T Send on one end, and both are connected to Data Carrier Detect on the other end.
- DB25 pins 4 (RTS) & 5 (CTS) are connected to each other, and to DE9 pin 1 (DCD).
- DE9 pins 7 (RTS) & 8 (CTS) are connected to each other, and to DB25 pin 8 (DCD).