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Ideal, all-in-one cables:
Ideal, all-in-one cables:
*[https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/C2G-null-modem-cable-6-ft-white/1153481.aspx C2G 03019] (fake DCD from DSR/DTR, Shield to pin1 on 25M)
*[https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/C2G-null-modem-cable-6-ft-white/1153481.aspx C2G 03019]
*[https://www.cablesondemand.com/category/CSNULL/product/CS-DSNL4259MF/URvars/Items/Library/InfoManage/CS-DSNL4259MF.htm Amphenol CS-DSNL4259MF-005] (fake DCD from DSR/DTR, Shield to pin1 on 25M)
:DCD+DSR<-->DTR
*[https://www.startech.com/Cables/Serial-Parallel-PS-2/DB9-DB25/10-ft-Cross-Wired-DB9-DB25-Serial-Null-Modem-Cable~SCNM925FM StarTech SCNM925FM] (no DCD, Shield to Shield but not to pin1 on 25M)
:S+PG
:No RI
*[https://www.cablesondemand.com/category/CSNULL/product/CS-DSNL4259MF/URvars/Items/Library/InfoManage/CS-DSNL4259MF.htm Amphenol CS-DSNL4259MF-005]
:DCD+DSR<-->DTR
:S+PG
:No RI
*[https://www.startech.com/Cables/Serial-Parallel-PS-2/DB9-DB25/10-ft-Cross-Wired-DB9-DB25-Serial-Null-Modem-Cable~SCNM925FM StarTech SCNM925FM]
:No DCD
:No RI


Less ideal cables:
Less ideal cables:
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*[https://www.cablewholesale.com/products/serial-modem-cable/null-modem-cables/product-10d1-21303.php CableWholesale 10D1-2103]
*[https://www.cablewholesale.com/products/serial-modem-cable/null-modem-cables/product-10d1-21303.php CableWholesale 10D1-2103]
:DCD<-->RTS+CTS
:DCD<-->RTS+CTS
:No RI
*[https://www.cablewholesale.com/products/serial-modem-cable/hp-plotter-cables/product-10d1-13306.php CableWholesale 10D1-13306]
*[https://www.cablewholesale.com/products/serial-modem-cable/hp-plotter-cables/product-10d1-13306.php CableWholesale 10D1-13306]
:This "HP PLotter" cable is bizarre.
:This "HP PLotter" cable is bizarre.
:DCD<-->RTS
:DCD<-->RTS
:DSR+CTS<-->DTS
:DSR+CTS<-->DTS
:No RI
:WTF??? HP are monsters.
:WTF??? HP are monsters.
*[https://www.tripplite.com/null-modem-serial-db9-serial-cable-db9-db25-female-male-6-ft~P456006/ Tripp-Lite P456-006]
*[https://www.tripplite.com/null-modem-serial-db9-serial-cable-db9-db25-female-male-6-ft~P456006/ Tripp-Lite P456-006]
:DCD<-->RTS+CTS
:DCD<-->RTS+CTS
:No RI
*[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005KCPOHM Epson CEPS-003BLK]
*[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005KCPOHM Epson CEPS-003BLK]
:DTR<-->DCD+RTS+CTS
:DTR<-->DCD+RTS+CTS
:No RI

Revision as of 05:02, 31 October 2017

The ideal cable to go from a PC to a Model 100, 102, 200, or 600, is "9F/25M serial null-modem full-handshake".

The serial ports on Models 100-600 are wired DTE, the same as a com port on a PC, but with a female connector, unlike any pc.

This is a backwards configuration from everything else today. There is some suggestion that maybe this is actually the original standard, and IBM came along later and changed it by putting male connectors on their PCs, but in any event, 25pin DTE ports being male has been the universal standard now for decades.

  • Any modem or printer or digital scale or any other kind of peripheral with a serial connection will be wired DCE with a female connector, usually 25 pin.
  • Any serial port card or usb serial adapter for a PC will be wired DTE with a male connector, usually 9 pin.

That means that usually you always need some kind of adapter between a PC and a M100/102/200/600.

The easiest way to connect with parts you are most likely to already have lying around, is to use a 9F/25M Modem Cable combined with a 9M/F Null-Modem Adapter.

Ideal, all-in-one cables:

DCD+DSR<-->DTR
S+PG
No RI
DCD+DSR<-->DTR
S+PG
No RI
No DCD
No RI

Less ideal cables:

These cables work fine for TPDD client/server connection, and almost everything else, since there isn't even any way to *set* hardware flow control in either BASIC or TELCOM anyway.
But the hardware in the M100 *can* actually do RTS/CTS, if you manipulate the UART registers yourself from a machine language program. The only software I know of that does this is HTERM. So these cables are NOT suitable for HTERM
DCD<-->RTS+CTS
Unlike all others: RI<-->RI
DCD<-->RTS+CTS
No RI
This "HP PLotter" cable is bizarre.
DCD<-->RTS
DSR+CTS<-->DTS
No RI
WTF??? HP are monsters.
DCD<-->RTS+CTS
No RI
DTR<-->DCD+RTS+CTS
No RI