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AS 29CF 800 B - 55 T I N
AS 29CF 800 B - 55 T I N
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   |    |  |  |  | | +- rohs
   |    |  |  |  | +- industrial temp -40c +85c
   |    |  |  |  | +- temperature
   |    |  |  |  +- tsop
   |    |  |  |  +- tsop
   |    |  |  +- 55 ns
   |    |  |  +- speed
   |    |  +- bottom boot
   |    |  +- bottom boot
   |    +- 8M
   |    +- 8M
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   |  |    |  +- speed
   |  |    |  +- speed
   |  |    +- bottom boot
   |  |    +- bottom boot
   |  +- 8M, x8/x16, boot block
   |  +- 8M, boot block
   +- flash, 5v
   +- parallel flash, 5v


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Macronix
Macronix


MX 29 F 800 C B T I - 70 G
MX 29F 800 C B T I - 70 G
   | | |  | | | |  |  +- rohs (may be absent)
   |   |  | | | |  |  +- rohs
   | | |  | | | |  +- speed
   |   |  | | | |  +- speed
   | | |  | | | +- temperature
   |   |  | | | +- temperature
   | | |  | | +- tsop
   |   |  | | +- tsop
   | | |  | +- bottom boot
   |   |  | +- bottom boot
   | | |  +- revision
   |   |  +- revision
   | | +- 8M, x8/x16, Boot Sector
   |   +- 8M
  |  +- 5v
   +- parallel flash, 5v
   +- flash, single ps


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| |  |  | | +- temperature
| |  |  | +- 5v
| |  |  | +- 5v
| |  |  +- die revision
| |  |  +- revision
| |  +- 8M
| |  +- 8M
| +- parallel flash
| +- parallel flash

Revision as of 08:05, 7 December 2022

Compatible flash chip for REX

The flash chip in the pre-loaded DigiKey cart may be out of stock because it is becoming obsolete.

The exact part in the cart is just one of several equivalent compatible parts that could be used in it's place.

There are several properties that you have to verify in order to find another part that is compatible.

You may have to search ebay or other suppliers for these parts.

The specs you need are:

parallel flash memory
5 volt
single power supply / single voltage (same 5v used for reading and programming)
8 Mbit (1Mx8/512Kx16)
boot sector
bottom boot
TSOP48
90ns or faster

The generic part number series is "29F800", with different extra characters added depending on manufacturer.

To search for a compatible flash chip, follow this:

1) Start by searching for "29F800" on any supplier site like DigiKey, Mouser, ebay, Verical, etc, or just google.

All the parts turned up from that search should be:
flash memory
single power supply
5v
8Mbit x8/x16
boot sector / boot block
There is no consistent way to search for, or eliminate, the remaining specs by part number, because each manufacturer specifies these properties differently in their part numbers.
For each potential part...

2) Search for the datasheet for that part number. Find the legend that shows how to decipher the part number. Usually it's towards the end of the document. Using the part number legend...

3) Verify the part is a TSOP48 package, standard pinout. (If there is no separate "reversed pinout" option, then the pinout is standard.)

4) Verify the boot block is "bottom boot".

5) Any speed 90ns or faster is ok, but the slower the better. (Old computers are crude and have a lot of noise on the bus, and fast parts can be fast enough to misinterpret some noise as data, while the noise is too high frequency to register as a valid pulse for a slower part. So slower is actually better than faster in this case.)

6) Any temperature range is fine. It doesn't hurt to get the more expensive industrial, automotive, or military temperature ranges, but the cheaper more common commercial range is fine.

7) Other possible options like burn-in, packaging, rohs, etc you can ignore.

Some examples of compatible parts

Examples:

Alliance
AS29CF800B-**T**
  AS29CF800B-55TIN

Macronix
MX29F800*BT*-***
  MX29F800CBTI-70G‎
  MX29F800BTC-70

Micron / Alliance (Originally a Micron part, discontinued, now Alliance makes a clone.)
M29F800FB**N**
  M29F800FB5AN6E2

AMD
AM29F800BB-##E*
  AM29F800BB-70EC
  AM29F800BB-70EI
  AM29F800BB-70EK
  AM29F800BB-90EF
  AM29F800BB-55EC

STMicroelectronics
M29F800*B##N#
  M29F800AB90N1
  M29F800DB70N6

Fuji
MBM29F800BA-##PFTN
  MBM29F800BA-70PFTN
  
Motorola
*29F800*5*BT##
  M29F800A5KBT80

Part number legends for a few manufacturers

Alliance
AS 29CF 800 B - 55 T I N
   |    |   |   |  | | +- rohs
   |    |   |   |  | +- temperature
   |    |   |   |  +- tsop
   |    |   |   +- speed
   |    |   +- bottom boot
   |    +- 8M
   |
   +- parallel flash, 5v

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AMD
AM 29F 800B B - 70 E K
   |   |    |   |  | +- temperature
   |   |    |   |  +- tsop48
   |   |    |   +- speed
   |   |    +- bottom boot
   |   +- 8M, boot block
   +- parallel flash, 5v

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Macronix

MX 29F 800 C B T I - 70 G
   |   |   | | | |   |  +- rohs
   |   |   | | | |   +- speed
   |   |   | | | +- temperature
   |   |   | | +- tsop
   |   |   | +- bottom boot
   |   |   +- revision
   |   +- 8M
   +- parallel flash, 5v

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STMicroelectronics

 M 29 F 800D B 55 N 6
   |  | |    | |  | +- temperature
   |  | |    | |  +- tsop
   |  | |    | +- speed
   |  | |    +- bottom boot
   |  | +- 800A, 800D: 8M, x8/x16, Boot Block
   |  +- 5v
   +- flash

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Fuji

MBM 29F 800 B A - 70 PFTN
    |   |   | |   |  +- PFTN = tsop48, standard pinout
    |   |   | |   +- speed
    |   |   | +- revision
    |   |   +- bottom boot
    |   +- 8M
    +- parallel flash, 5v

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Motorola

M 29F 800 A 5 K B T 80
| |   |   | | | | | +- speed
| |   |   | | | | +- tsop
| |   |   | | | +- bottom boot
| |   |   | | +- temperature
| |   |   | +- 5v
| |   |   +- revision
| |   +- 8M
| +- parallel flash
+- status M: motorola qualified

example links

Pick any version of the chip which matches this pattern:
AM29F800BB-##E*
Where:
## = Speed: 90 or faster (90 or less)
E = Package: Must be "E", which is TSOP
* = Temperature range code: Any
Examples:
AM29F800BB-70EK
AM29F800BB-90EF (except, that particular entry has a minimum order quantity of 98, at $6 per chip. So you can't use this link to buy 3 chips, but it shows how to identify a correct part. This part is good because: The datasheet for AM29F800BB shows that the 2nd "B" in "29F800BB" means bottom boot, and the "E" in "-90EF" means TSOP48, and "90" is a good speed, and the "F" temperature range doesn't matter to us.)