TPDD: Difference between revisions

From Tandy Tech
Jump to navigation Jump to search
 
(60 intermediate revisions by the same user not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
=Tandy Portable Disk Drive=
=Tandy Portable Disk Drive=
There were two versions of the Tandy Portable Disk Drive, "26-3808 Tandy Portable Disk Drive" or "TPDD1", and "26-3814 Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2" or "TPDD2". Both were very similar. The original TPDD1 is a re-branded Brother FB-100.
There were two versions of the original Tandy Portable Disk Drive, "26-3808 Tandy Portable Disk Drive" or now called "TPDD1", and "26-3814 Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2" or "TPDD2". Both were very similar.
 
The original TPDD1 is a re-branded Brother FB100. In fact the Brother FB100 was sold under several names. At least:
:Brother FB100
:TANDY Portable Disk Drive
:knitking FDD19
:Purple Computing D103
 
The TPDD2 was also sold under multiple names. At least:
:TANDY Portable Disk Drive 2
:XOB Disc-88


==Common features of both versions==
==Common features of both versions==
Line 14: Line 24:


:[https://archive.org/details/TandyPortableDiskDriveOperationManual26-3808 Operation Manual]
:[https://archive.org/details/TandyPortableDiskDriveOperationManual26-3808 Operation Manual]
:[https://archive.org/details/TandyPortableDiskDriveSoftwareManual26-3808s Software Manual]
:[https://archive.org/details/tandy-service-manual-26-3808-s-software-manual-for-portable-disk-drive Software Manual]
:[https://archive.org/details/tandy-portable-disk-drive-service-manual-26-3808 Service Manual]
:[http://www.club100.org/library/sup/07.txt TPDD1 bootstrap procedure]
<!-- :[http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Base_Protocol Command Reference] -->


:[http://www.club100.org/library/sup/07.txt TPDD1 bootstrap procedure]
:[[File:TPDD1_ROM.zip]] - dump of the 4k rom built into the HD63A01V1 cpu
:[http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Base_Protocol Command Reference]
:ROM is also identical in Brother FB-100, KnitKing FDD19, and Purple Computing D103
:[http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Desklink/TS-DOS_Directory_Access TS-DOS Directories]


==Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2==
==Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2==
200K in the form of 2 100K banks (still only uses one side of the disk)
200K, in the form of 2 100K banks


:[https://archive.org/details/Portable_Disk_Drive_2_Operation_Manual_1986_Tandy TPDD2 Operation Manual]
:[https://archive.org/details/tpdd-2-service-manual TPDD2 Service Manual]
:[http://www.club100.org/library/sup/08.txt TPDD2 bootstrap procedure]
:[http://www.club100.org/library/sup/08.txt TPDD2 bootstrap procedure]
:[https://archive.org/details/Portable_Disk_Drive_2_Operation_Manual_1986_Tandy TPDD2 Operation Manual]
<!-- :[http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=TPDD-2_Sector_Access_Protocol TPDD2 Sector Access] -->
:[http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=TPDD-2_Sector_Access_Protocol TPDD2 Sector Access]
 
:[[File:TPDD2_ROM.zip]] - dump of the 4k rom built into the HD63A01V1 cpu


=Parts=
=Parts=
Line 34: Line 49:


===Cable===
===Cable===
The "RS-232C" interface to the TPDD is actually 5v TTL (0v to +5v), while RS-232 serial ports use -12v to +12v. So the cable isn't just a cable, it has electronics inside the DB25 plug to convert the signal levels between TTL and RS-232.


The "RS-232C" interface to the TPDD is actually 5v TTL (0v to +5v), while RS-232 serial ports use -12v to +12v. So the cable isn't just a cable, it has electronics inside the DB25 plug to convert the signal levels between TTL and RS-232.
You can't buy the original special cable any more, but you can [https://github.com/bkw777/TPDD_Cable build one], or buy one from [https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/?page_id=11#!/Special-serial-cable-for-Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-and-Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2/p/144969001/category=28313042 ArcadeShopper] (picture is outdated, the cables are the same as the one on github), or [https://www.soigeneris.com/tpdd2_cable SoiGeneris].


Pinout
Pinout
Line 56: Line 72:
:6 TXD
:6 TXD
:7 RXD
:7 RXD
:8 EB+ (External Battery +4.8 to +6v)
:8 EB+ (External Battery +4.8 to +6v) (Only on TPDD2, n/c on TPDD1)
 
[https://github.com/bkw777/TPDD_Cable KiCAD source for schematic & pcb to build a cable]
 
The only difference between these 3 versions of the PCB is the silkscreen.<br>
Each version has the through holes for soldering the wires labelled with numbers for that cable's type of plug and pinout.<br>
The components and traces and signals are identical on the PCBs.<br>
 
The only difference between the BOM links is the plugs on the included serial cable.<br>
The standard cable (for TRS-80 Model 100 and all other "Model T"s) requires a cable with a 25-pin female plug on one end, and the other end doesn't matter.<br>
The Z88 requires a 9-pin male plug.<br>
The WP-2 and most PC's requires a 9-pin female plug.<br>
 
All other components are the same.
 
{|class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
!For use with any "Model T"
!For use with TANDY WP-2 and most PC's
!For use with Cambridge Z88
|-
|[https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/hGDKlBiu PCB]
|[https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/njRFkoGs PCB]
|[https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/pVGHGqua PCB]
|-
|[https://www.digikey.com/short/pbc3pp BOM] ([https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/tripp-lite/P404-006/TL641-ND/1533443 black cable])
|Any of the other BOM links will work for this.<br>They all include a cable with a DE9F on one end.
|[https://www.digikey.com/short/zfw37m BOM] ([https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/tripp-lite/P454-006/TL420-ND/1533452 black cable])
|}
 


[[File:TPDD2 original cable.jpg|thumb|none]]


<!--  save until duplicated somewhere
:Assembly:
:Assembly:
:*Solder all components to pcb per the render pics.
:*Solder all components to pcb per the render pics.
Line 125: Line 115:


[[TPDD:Other_Cable_Designs]]
[[TPDD:Other_Cable_Designs]]
-->


=Software=
=Software=
Software related to these drives can be broken into 2 main categories, [[TPDD_client|clients]] and [[TPDD_server|servers]].


==For "Model T"s==
A [[TPDD_client|TPDD client]] (aka dos) is software that uses a TPDD drive. This includes TS-DOS, and the program called "Floppy" which came on the special disk that came with the TANDY versions of the drives.
The normal way to use a TPDD is to install a [[TPDD_client]] on a "Model T" such as TRS-80 Model 100 or NEC PC-8201a.


Several such clients have been made. The drive came with a utility disk and a functional dos called "floppy".<br>
A [[TPDD_server|TPDD server]] (aka emulator) is software that pretends to BE a TPDD drive. This includes LaddieAlpha, dl2, and others.
Others have been made by 3rd parties that provided more features or smaller ram footprint or more flexible installation/usage.<br>
Various special purpose utility programs have been written by users as well.


==For PCs==
=Misc Related Info=
TPDD used double density 3.5" disks, but used a format that is incompatible with modern pc drive controllers.<br>
Normal MS-DOS formatted disks are written with MFM encoding, while the TPDD used FM encoding.<br>
Even using special software to read non-standard formats, you can't make a normal drive & drive controller read or write FM.


To read or write a TPDD disk from a modern machine, you need a working TPDD drive and the special RS232-to-TTL level-shifting serial cable that came with it, and a "TPDD Client" software to talk to the drive over the serial connection the same way the M100 does.
Low-profile DIP switch that fits under the cover on the bottom, which can be installed on Brother FB-100, KnitKing FDD19, or Purple Computing D103 to give access to all possible drive operation modes like TPDD1.<br>
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cui-devices/DS04-254-2L-04BK/11310925


There are several TPDD clients for more modern machines, although most of these are themselves also no longer modern.<br>
TS-DOS implements an extension to the TPDD protocol to provide subdirectories.<br>
For example Lap-Desk and PDD.exe are both 16-bit DOS programs that don't work on Windows.
A real TPDD or TPDD2 doesn't support this, but some TPDD emulators do (NADSBOX, LaddieAlpha, dl2, PDDuino, at least)
 
:[http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Desklink/TS-DOS_Directory_Access TS-DOS Directories]
One thing that is usable today is [http://trs80stuff.net/tpdd/tools.html TpddTool.py], a TPDD Client written in Python.


==Others==
TPDD uses standard 720k DD 3.5" disks, but uses a format that is incompatible with modern pc drive controllers.<br>
The TANDY WP-2 has support for using a TPDD built in to it's firmware.
Normal MS-DOS formatted disks are written with MFM encoding, while the TPDD uses FM encoding.<br>
Even using special software to read non-standard track/sector formats, you can't make a normal drive & drive controller read or write FM. An old pc with an early floppy controller chip and an old 720k drive may be able to do it.


There are TPDD Client apps for Cambridge Z88 to use a TPDD.
To read or write a TPDD disk from a modern machine, you need a working TPDD drive, the special RS232-to-TTL level-shifting serial cable, a 9F-to-25F straight through (not null-modem) serial adapter or combination of cables & adapters, and TPDD client software to talk to the drive over the serial connection the same way the M100 does. See pdd.sh, PDD.EXE, or TpddTool.py from the TPDD clients link above.


==Related==
Don't use 1.44M HD disks in a TPDD. Use 720K DD disks.<br>
There are also several [[TPDD_Emulators]], which are programs that don't *use* a TPDD, but they emulate *being* a TPDD, so a Model 100, 102, 200, WP-2, NEC PC-8201, PC-8201a, PC-8300, Kyotronic KC-85, Olivetti M-10, Cambridge Z88, can save and retieve files on a modern computer using the TPDD protocol.
[[File:720vs144.jpg|left|thumb]]


There are also a few hardware devices that emulate a TPDD.<br>
<!--
One was called a [http://www.club100.org NADSBOX], which is no longer available.<br>
https://www.ordersomewherechaos.com/rosso/fetish/m102/web100/docs/pdd2-sector-0.html
Another is a combination of 3 diy projects:<br>
https://www.ordersomewherechaos.com/rosso/fetish/m102/web100/docs/pdd-sector-access.html
[http://github.com/bkw777/PDDuino]<br>
-->
[http://github.com/bkw777/MounT]<br>
[http://github.com/bkw777/BCR_Breakout]<br>

Latest revision as of 16:52, 6 August 2024

Tandy Portable Disk Drive

There were two versions of the original Tandy Portable Disk Drive, "26-3808 Tandy Portable Disk Drive" or now called "TPDD1", and "26-3814 Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2" or "TPDD2". Both were very similar.

The original TPDD1 is a re-branded Brother FB100. In fact the Brother FB100 was sold under several names. At least:

Brother FB100
TANDY Portable Disk Drive
knitking FDD19
Purple Computing D103

The TPDD2 was also sold under multiple names. At least:

TANDY Portable Disk Drive 2
XOB Disc-88

Common features of both versions

Size, shape, weight
Batteris: 4 x AA
Wall power: 5.5mm x 2.1mm, 6vdc, center negative, 400ma (Tandy 26-3804)
Media: 3.5" DD, aka "720K" diskettes (not HD 1.44M)
Drive is single-sided. The disks may be single or double-sided, but the drive only uses one side.

Documentation

Tandy Portable Disk Drive

100K

Operation Manual
Software Manual
Service Manual
TPDD1 bootstrap procedure
File:TPDD1 ROM.zip - dump of the 4k rom built into the HD63A01V1 cpu
ROM is also identical in Brother FB-100, KnitKing FDD19, and Purple Computing D103

Tandy Portable Disk Drive 2

200K, in the form of 2 100K banks

TPDD2 Operation Manual
TPDD2 Service Manual
TPDD2 bootstrap procedure
File:TPDD2 ROM.zip - dump of the 4k rom built into the HD63A01V1 cpu

Parts

Belt

Standard size code: FRW-8.5

Search "FRW 8.5 belt" on Google or ebay

Cable

The "RS-232C" interface to the TPDD is actually 5v TTL (0v to +5v), while RS-232 serial ports use -12v to +12v. So the cable isn't just a cable, it has electronics inside the DB25 plug to convert the signal levels between TTL and RS-232.

You can't buy the original special cable any more, but you can build one, or buy one from ArcadeShopper (picture is outdated, the cables are the same as the one on github), or SoiGeneris.

Pinout 

+------------------------------------------------+
|                                                |
|                                                |
|                 RS-232C                        |
|                   ___                          |
|               +--+   +--+              +-----+ |     
|               | 7 5 3 1 |              | (o) | |
|               | 8 6 4 2 |              |     | |
|               +---------+              +-----+ |
+------------------------------------------------+
1 GND
2 CTS
3 DTR
4 RTS
5 DSR
6 TXD
7 RXD
8 EB+ (External Battery +4.8 to +6v) (Only on TPDD2, n/c on TPDD1)


Software

Software related to these drives can be broken into 2 main categories, clients and servers.

A TPDD client (aka dos) is software that uses a TPDD drive. This includes TS-DOS, and the program called "Floppy" which came on the special disk that came with the TANDY versions of the drives.

A TPDD server (aka emulator) is software that pretends to BE a TPDD drive. This includes LaddieAlpha, dl2, and others.

Misc Related Info

Low-profile DIP switch that fits under the cover on the bottom, which can be installed on Brother FB-100, KnitKing FDD19, or Purple Computing D103 to give access to all possible drive operation modes like TPDD1.
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cui-devices/DS04-254-2L-04BK/11310925

TS-DOS implements an extension to the TPDD protocol to provide subdirectories.
A real TPDD or TPDD2 doesn't support this, but some TPDD emulators do (NADSBOX, LaddieAlpha, dl2, PDDuino, at least)

TS-DOS Directories

TPDD uses standard 720k DD 3.5" disks, but uses a format that is incompatible with modern pc drive controllers.
Normal MS-DOS formatted disks are written with MFM encoding, while the TPDD uses FM encoding.
Even using special software to read non-standard track/sector formats, you can't make a normal drive & drive controller read or write FM. An old pc with an early floppy controller chip and an old 720k drive may be able to do it.

To read or write a TPDD disk from a modern machine, you need a working TPDD drive, the special RS232-to-TTL level-shifting serial cable, a 9F-to-25F straight through (not null-modem) serial adapter or combination of cables & adapters, and TPDD client software to talk to the drive over the serial connection the same way the M100 does. See pdd.sh, PDD.EXE, or TpddTool.py from the TPDD clients link above.

Don't use 1.44M HD disks in a TPDD. Use 720K DD disks.


Retrieved from "http://tandy.wiki/index.php?title=TPDD&oldid=2916"